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Indiana adopts $1000 speeding ticket; max work zone SL 45 MPH
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Sherman L. Cahal
2007-05-25 03:09:05 UTC
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Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
The Indiana Department of Transportation to collect work zone speeding
ticket revenue beginning July 1. Maximum citation increased to $1000.

Governor Mitch DanielsThe Indiana Department of Transportation (INDOT)
will soon be the direct beneficiary of speeding ticket revenue under a
bill recently signed by Governor Mitch Daniels (R). The measure gives
INDOT the power to decrease speed limits "without conducting an
engineering study and investigation" in highway work zones. INDOT can
direct police to enforce this lowered limit, regardless of whether
workers are actually present. The law also mandates that no work zone
speed limit exceed 45 MPH.

As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.

The bill also creates a new work zone category for "aggressive
driving" that makes it a misdemeanor to drive 46 MPH in a freeway work
zone while flashing headlights and honking the horn at a slow-moving
car in the left lane, or any other combination of three maneuvers
deemed aggressive. The first offense carries a $5000 fine and up to
one year in jail, while a second offense is a felony punishable by up
to three years in jail and a $10,000 fine.

"I would like to thank the governor for his quick action in signing
these important bills into law," said the state Senate sponsor of the
legislation, Mike Delph (R-Carmel).
XOZ
2007-05-25 08:06:26 UTC
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Post by Sherman L. Cahal
"I would like to thank the governor for his quick action in signing
these important bills into law," said the state Senate sponsor of the
legislation, Mike Delph (R-Carmel).
I would also like to thank the state of Indiana for briskly advancing
fascism in America. We should all celebrate by going to jail en
masse.
MBHockey13
2007-05-25 13:23:22 UTC
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Why not just drop the Work Zone speed limit down to 35 MPH? Or 25 MPH?

What a joke. I've seen work zones in the West set at 70 MPH!
George Conklin
2007-05-25 14:01:20 UTC
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Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
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Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
The Indiana Department of Transportation to collect work zone speeding
ticket revenue beginning July 1. Maximum citation increased to $1000.
Governor Mitch DanielsThe Indiana Department of Transportation (INDOT)
will soon be the direct beneficiary of speeding ticket revenue under a
bill recently signed by Governor Mitch Daniels (R). The measure gives
INDOT the power to decrease speed limits "without conducting an
engineering study and investigation" in highway work zones. INDOT can
direct police to enforce this lowered limit, regardless of whether
workers are actually present. The law also mandates that no work zone
speed limit exceed 45 MPH.
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
The bill also creates a new work zone category for "aggressive
driving" that makes it a misdemeanor to drive 46 MPH in a freeway work
zone while flashing headlights and honking the horn at a slow-moving
car in the left lane, or any other combination of three maneuvers
deemed aggressive. The first offense carries a $5000 fine and up to
one year in jail, while a second offense is a felony punishable by up
to three years in jail and a $10,000 fine.
"I would like to thank the governor for his quick action in signing
these important bills into law," said the state Senate sponsor of the
legislation, Mike Delph (R-Carmel).
This is a revenue bill, not a safety bill.
Kevin Stark
2007-05-25 14:30:05 UTC
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Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
The Indiana Department of Transportation to collect work zone speeding
ticket revenue beginning July 1. Maximum citation increased to $1000.
Governor Mitch DanielsThe Indiana Department of Transportation (INDOT)
will soon be the direct beneficiary of speeding ticket revenue under a
bill recently signed by Governor Mitch Daniels (R). The measure gives
INDOT the power to decrease speed limits "without conducting an
engineering study and investigation" in highway work zones. INDOT can
direct police to enforce this lowered limit, regardless of whether
workers are actually present. The law also mandates that no work zone
speed limit exceed 45 MPH.
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
The bill also creates a new work zone category for "aggressive
driving" that makes it a misdemeanor to drive 46 MPH in a freeway work
zone while flashing headlights and honking the horn at a slow-moving
car in the left lane, or any other combination of three maneuvers
deemed aggressive. The first offense carries a $5000 fine and up to
one year in jail, while a second offense is a felony punishable by up
to three years in jail and a $10,000 fine.
"I would like to thank the governor for his quick action in signing
these important bills into law," said the state Senate sponsor of the
legislation, Mike Delph (R-Carmel).
All that needs to happen is for the wrong lawyer to get ticketed. Methinks
some judge will find the punishment excessive and throw out the law.
John F. Carr
2007-05-26 19:33:52 UTC
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Post by Kevin Stark
All that needs to happen is for the wrong lawyer to get ticketed. Methinks
some judge will find the punishment excessive and throw out the law.
The penalty for speeding in Georgia is a year in jail.
If that's still in effect a $1,000 fine will survive
judicial review.

In most places lawyers can make tickets go away without
starting a losing battle to strike down the law.
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JG
2007-05-26 21:40:02 UTC
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On May 25, 9:30 am, "Kevin Stark"
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Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
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Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
The Indiana Department of Transportation to collect work zone speeding
ticket revenue beginning July 1. Maximum citation increased to $1000.
Governor Mitch DanielsThe Indiana Department of Transportation (INDOT)
will soon be the direct beneficiary of speeding ticket revenue under a
bill recently signed by Governor Mitch Daniels (R). The measure gives
INDOT the power to decrease speed limits "without conducting an
engineering study and investigation" in highway work zones. INDOT can
direct police to enforce this lowered limit, regardless of whether
workers are actually present. The law also mandates that no work zone
speed limit exceed 45 MPH.
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
The bill also creates a new work zone category for "aggressive
driving" that makes it a misdemeanor to drive 46 MPH in a freeway work
zone while flashing headlights and honking the horn at a slow-moving
car in the left lane, or any other combination of three maneuvers
deemed aggressive. The first offense carries a $5000 fine and up to
one year in jail, while a second offense is a felony punishable by up
to three years in jail and a $10,000 fine.
"I would like to thank the governor for his quick action in signing
these important bills into law," said the state Senate sponsor of the
legislation, Mike Delph (R-Carmel).
All that needs to happen is for the wrong lawyer to get ticketed. Methinks
some judge will find the punishment excessive and throw out the law.
And that the troopers will look very close for pictures of Honest Abe
on the plates..JG
Joe Blasi
2007-05-25 18:23:25 UTC
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up to $5000 for 46 in a 45?
that will back the courts up alot as near 100% of people who get tickets
will take that to court.
Scott en Aztlán
2007-05-26 03:12:54 UTC
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Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
2007-05-26 15:07:30 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
Speeders are killers and cripplers and are lucky they aren't given jail
time. Unlike you, I'm no coddler.
Murderous Speeding Drunken Driver
2007-05-26 15:14:15 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
Speeders are killers and cripplers and are lucky they aren't given jail
time. Unlike you, I'm no coddler.
How's it going, Kennedy Koddler? ROTFLMAO.
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because we're not all there.
Archie Leach
2007-05-26 16:31:31 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
Speeders are killers and cripplers and are lucky they aren't given jail
time. Unlike you, I'm a shameless imbecile.
I fixed your post for you, jUdY.
Larry Bud
2007-05-26 15:59:03 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
This coming from a country that has traffic like this?


Larry Bud
2007-05-26 16:00:05 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Post by Sherman L. Cahal
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/17/1769.asp
More information is available at the web-site.
Indiana Adopts $1000 Speeding Tickets
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
This coming from a country that has traffic like this?
http://youtu.be/RjrEQaG5jPM
Ooops, me think I need my contacts in!
bob zee
2007-05-27 22:43:26 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Post by Sherman L. Cahal
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
the world will be a much better place when California falls into the
sea.

i have been travelling on the I-70 DAILY for over a year. the first
month of the construction on "Super 70", the average speed was 47 mph
(posted at 45). now, you can run 53+ mph and get run over. is it
necessary to have this absurdly low speed limit? i say, No. it is
there and it is temporary, so who cares. it is TEMPORARY.

the really cool part is the idiots that exceed the posted SL are the
god-lovers. "in god we trust"
hahahahaha.

in Zeus i trust. In Bacchus, i trust. In Santa, I trust.

idiots.

bob z.
p.s. i continually run 85+ mph. i am completely for higher speed
limits so, i am not a liberal left-wing no-nut tree lover. I don't
believe in any of the millions of gods humanity has invented over the
years to explain what their brain lacks.
Scott en Aztlán
2007-05-27 23:32:14 UTC
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Post by Sherman L. Cahal
As of July 1, INDOT will collect the revenue from these fines which
the law also boosts significantly. The first offense runs $300, the
second $500 and the third $1000. Anyone contesting the fine in court
faces an additional $70 fee if found guilty.
No wonder 223rem is moving to California. :)
the world will be a much better place when California falls into the
sea.
You're just jealous.

Coastal California is a paradise - even with the crowds and the
traffic. Proof: demand for housing is so high, a 3-bedroom 1500 square
foot house costs $700,000, and yet people are STILL desperate to come
here despite the high price.
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Matthew T. Russotto
2007-05-28 21:53:21 UTC
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Post by Scott en Aztlán
Coastal California is a paradise - even with the crowds and the
traffic. Proof: demand for housing is so high, a 3-bedroom 1500 square
foot house costs $700,000, and yet people are STILL desperate to come
here despite the high price.
Doesn't follow. You could pay that much in Philadelphia and more in
Manhattan, and neither is a paradise (ask any Philadelphian).
--
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result in a fully-depreciated one.
Brent P
2007-05-29 02:03:13 UTC
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Post by Matthew T. Russotto
Post by Scott en Aztlán
Coastal California is a paradise - even with the crowds and the
traffic. Proof: demand for housing is so high, a 3-bedroom 1500 square
foot house costs $700,000, and yet people are STILL desperate to come
here despite the high price.
Doesn't follow. You could pay that much in Philadelphia and more in
Manhattan, and neither is a paradise (ask any Philadelphian).
$400,000 townhomes being built on the ruins of stateway gardens in
chicago...

Aaron M. Renn
2007-05-28 19:27:42 UTC
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This is clearly about money, not safety. I'm guessing the state has dollar
signs in their head after seeing all the money that the Super-70 enforcement
has brought in.

Speed should be posted as appropriate to the circumstances. I believe most
interstate construction zones could easily be designed for safe 55+ operation.
Enforcing ridiculous limits even when there is no work and/or workers only
promotes disrespect and contempt for the law among average citizens.

This is just like seatbelt enforcement zones. I was on 10th St. in Indy
on the east side last week. Notwithstanding that the crime rate is out of
control there, there were no less than six officers conducting seat belt
checks at one checkpoint. No wonder the murder rate is through the roof.
The top brass in these departments just don't get it.
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My urban planning and transportation blog: http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/
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